Just why is GW Community so Rude?

[fireflyry]

Originally Posted by Franco Power

If you actually tried to understand what I write instead of sticking to your "I'm right and you're wrong" mentallity that causes and is the reason of why you have such a bad opinion on this community ( mainly because not many people put up with it and specially not on a online game).

Originally Posted by Franco Power

You're wrong, end of discussion for me, even if you think you're not wrong and I'm wrong, I don't care because I know I'm right and you're wrong.

Ummmm.....yeah......

Originally Posted by Franco Power

Feel free to keep trying to prove to these people that their wrong thou, I wish you best good luck and will sent you some head ache pills.

I'm not.

I'm discussing the OP, your attempting to justify bad behavior while suggesting that ignoring it stops it being an issue.

[eeks]

Erh. In PvE, except for the idiots faffing about in SJM, rudeness only seems to really occur during party wipes.

As I've played through Factions far too many times, I PuG everything now for the hell of it. Did Gyala Hatchery last night and the silly leader didn't specify that he/she wished to go the "back way", so whilst most of the team followed, our monk ran for the turtles. I was the only one who noticed that triggers the escort part of the mission, so called everyone back, and the poor monk was shouted at.

Needless to say, unprepared as the party was, we got masters in a little under twenty minutes. Everyone was happy then.

I can guarantee half the team would have screamed bloody murder if it was any other way. Which stands to reason I guess, but I don't know why one would PuG if they wanted a guaranteed chance at the Master's reward.

[bhavv]

I challenge you to try and spend a day in RA without encountering a rude player.

[Alazardragoon]

Originally Posted by Avarre

The Guild Wars community is nowhere near the rudest community on the internet.

I agree That right goes to the phantasy star universe official forums community with their daily "Inb4lock" or the all to popular PSU trade mark "Gibrawrs" or even the "Noobtube" So far the PSU community is by far 100 times worse than the Guild wars community could EVER be. Seriously Spend a day there Any one who wants to see rudeness at its best spend a day there. PSU official forums. More than half of the things posted are ether complaints or reasons people quit, And the rest are not making it better all of their responses are Inb4lock or gibrawrs or telling them their a noob. Its just pathetic. The guild wars community is a bunch of saints compared to psu community.

[zayphr]

the big huge debate over ursan kinda sorta goes back to the op's point. i think for whatever reason some people get WAAAY too worked up over a GAME. i play everyday, several hours a day alot of the time and even though that's alot, i don't get so worked up over it. all the people who bitch and rant over pug's, ursan and god knows what else is ridiculous to me.

there are many nice people in the game but they usually either keep their local channel off or just keep quiet when people argue about nonsense. in my opinion, it's people of all ages who are running around being complete assholes in the game. the ones that are adults act this way because it's a way for them to vent their "real life" frustrations and stress. i'm 29 and have played online games for years but i don't go around cursing people or calling them "noobs" or whatever. if i start to get that stressed while playing i'll just turn the game off and take a breather which is something ALOT of players should do instead of acting so ridiculous.

for some reason this thread reminded me of the WOW south park episode, where the middle aged dude did nothing but kill low level players, just being an asshole for no reason because he obviously had no life outside the game.

[around]

I find the inanity worse. Local chat in RA/AB/whatever is filled with people discussing how to best wtfpwn with crappy crappy builds, talking about how 'cool' their names/characters look and other assorted rubbish.

[DarkNecrid]

Originally Posted by spawnofebil

I find the inanity worse. Local chat in RA/AB/whatever is filled with people discussing how to best wtfpwn with crappy crappy builds, talking about how 'cool' their names/characters look and other assorted rubbish.

wow are you sure you're in RA?

like every time i go there it is one of the following:
*sex
*drugs
*politics

I'd be SUPER HAPPY if I found them discussing crappy builds.


...seriously.

[around]

I usually turn local chat off whenever I'm in a district, but turn it back on again when I enter the mission.

The smacktalk is just too funny to ignore.

[Masamune Saiyan]

My nephew just turned 12 and recently joined GW.

I really, really tried talking his parents out of getting the game for him, but he cried for it and of course, Mommy went and bought it for him. >.<' I am resigned to the fact that I will be helping him every time he's on (or deal with my sister,) and actually praying that he will get frustrated and quit the game for good. He is impatient and can't quite grasp how vast of a game GW can be and that I won't always be there to help him. He thinks this is simply another run around, hack and slash. He is a very slow responder chatwise (very short attention span. He gets up and does other things.) I'm sure he's been in a few bad PUGs (I just got him out of a bad guild and into mine where I can at least keep a better eye on him.) I know he's probably given people a hard time as well (he is 12 and hasn't played anything online but Runescape.) Urrg!

At least I will see him this weekend. I will do my best to sit him down and go over the game in detail the best I can. At least that will relax my nerves somewhat. If he's going to be in a gaming community, then I would rather it be GW. Any rudeness I've come across has been few and far inbetween. However, I am a mature and experienced adult that types/acts as such. =/

[Moloch Vein]

The people who think the GW community is "rude" are the people who have a very, very thin skin.

[bhavv]

Originally Posted by Moloch Vein

The people who think the GW community is "rude" are the people who have a very, very thin skin.

Meaning what?

It doesnt offend me in the slightest when I have to read anything bad in the game, in fact, I am in full support for swear words and bad language to be useable without bans being given out, just as it is possible to do so in AoC. but that doesnt mean that you can just ignore that rudeness is there, and the rudeness isnt a case of someone just saying a bad word, it is normally insuting people for the builds they play, your mom jokes, racist comments (report + insta ban), and hateful comments are all pressent at some point.

Maybe you havnt seen it yourself, but I have seen it all. I have been wishing for a feature that can automatically log me in as offline when playing RA, because I normally forget to change my status when swapping characters, but I forget and then theres someone whispering me to cry about my build, reminding me 'Oh, I forgot to change to offline'.

[Damian979]

GW doesn't present an actual consequence for being rude. I have typed /report on many people that were being obnoxious, leeching, using racist comments and so on but I have no idea that it did anything and never will.

There are people anywhere you go inside or outside of a game that just want to be a pain in someone's ass. That is their intention and most often they have become really good at it. Usually this is because someone was a pain in their's at some point in time. The reaction is all they are going for and as long as they continue to feel like they are getting under someone's skin, they will continue to push.

I used to be in a guild where there were 45 active members on at any given point. One person of these 45 was a complete ass all the time for no reason. He scammed people, insulted people, or just tried to start crap with people that were just minding their business and not saying anything. He made people leave because of it. When ever he would say something to me, I would snap back with something equally as obnoxious and insulting as was the trend on how this guy was responded to.

After a couple weeks of this I sent a pm to everyone else in the guild asking for people to just ignore him. Of course the next time he logged on he started with his normal crap. After an hour of no response he logged off. Next time he was on, same thing. By the 4th day of this when he logged on there was no "what's up fags" or what ever clever insult he wanted to use, after ten minutes he finally said "anyone need any help?".

Since then he's left that guild and I recently saw him at the eotn outpost with no guild tag just randomly insulting people.

[GoodApollo1234]

Guild Wars is a demanding game?..... Are you kidding? You can play for 1 hour a day and still be about as good as anyone else.

As for the rudeness, I think that's really just a side affect of the "darwinist" system that Anet's implemented into the game. I think you're right on a lot of what you said. If you make the smallest mistake, you get "omg noob"'d, and that's really frustrating, but can you blame them? Guild Wars was designed to be an easy game to pick up, and if you take the time to read through the manual, and learn the way things work, you'll be fine.

The problem is with people who refuse to take the time learn on their own. Too many people expect others to play the game for them.

My friends list is actually full of people I helped out when they first started, and yes, they all made their fair share of mistakes. I enjoy helping people, but it's a two-person job. They have to WANT to be good at the game.

[Stockholm]

Originally Posted by Gift3d

Kids play video games. That's what they do. Wherever there is a video game, there will be kids.

Now, if you see a 14 year old kid playing a computer game, and an old hairy 40 year old guy playing a video game, which do you think would look less appropriate? The 40 year old guy.

The GW community, for some unknown reason, is FULL of these people who are 30+ years old spending massive time on Guild Wars. Their carebear attitude and habit of taking everything far too serious is pretty much opposite of the people of the age group that SHOULD be playing video games (14-20ish) who are lighthearted players who can joke around. That's where the nuclear war happens. It's like when cold and warm air fronts collide, what do you get? A tornado. And in this case, it's a shitstorm tornado of over-punctuation and reports, and "NOUNOUNOU DIK DIK DIK" 's.

You seam to forget that the +40 crowd are the ones that have played video games since the late 70's, it is something we grew up doing and like doing.
I think the 14-20 crowd are the ones that should get away more from the monitors and experiance the real world, the +40 crowd turn to the monitor to exscape the real world for a change after a day or week at the office, supporting these little online hooligans.

And it is frightning to see how the younger crowd act in any online community, they will have a rude awakening when they go out into the real world.

[bhavv]

Originally Posted by Stockholm

You seam to forget that the +40 crowd are the ones that have played video games since the late 70's, it is something we grew up doing and like doing.
I think the 14-20 crowd are the ones that should get away more from the monitors and experiance the real world, the +40 crowd turn to the monitor to exscape the real world for a change after a day or week at the office, supporting these little online hooligans.

And it is frightning to see how the younger crowd act in any online community, they will have a rude awakening when they go out into the real world.

Good points, but dont forget that you didnt have online games in the 70s

They are relatively a new thing, and unfortunately, a lot of children nowadays dislike old people playing games.

Heres a video for all the little brats that dare to think such things:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW9UG9O3GOg

[DDL]

Originally Posted by bhavv

Good points, but dont forget that you didnt have online games in the 70s

MUDs! Ok, not in the early 70s, but by late 70s early eighties there were a slew of crappy online multiplayer text-based dungeons (many of which were probably more enjoyable than bloody frostmaw). On the grand scheme of things, online 'game-like environments' have been around for quite a long time now.

[Stockholm]

Originally Posted by bhavv

Good points, but dont forget that you didnt have online games in the 70s

They are relatively a new thing, and unfortunately, a lot of children nowadays dislike old people playing games.

Heres a video for all the little brats that dare to think such things:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW9UG9O3GOg

Yeah, and "Old Granny" has earned her right to be a bad ass gamer

[Trub]

Originally Posted by Stockholm

Yeah, and "Old Granny" has earned her right to be a bad ass gamer

damn strait.
well..not quite a 'granny', but I have been kicking digital butt for many a sleepless night!!

[imnotyourmother]

I agree. totally, except in one area. Presearing.

The competition in presearing is not like that in any other part of the game. I will run with lvl 3's and up. I teach the basic skills of pulling, salvaging and other things while they are in presearing. When someone does not listen to me and just runs off after I have given instructions I just stand there.

At home I shake my head but after they die. I res them and say "try this" or try that. or you just died again so I will die cause my res is out.

After dying several times and they do what I suggest I help them. My toon is lvl 17 WOOT. Killer in pre. The game becomes robotic to them and takes way less time to kill things and avoid agro.

Most of the time noobs are like - agro? what is agro? How did you draw on my map. Love it

So there are those of us out there trying to enforce a nurturing community before they get to the flaming part of the game. I love noobs and I do it cause I wish someone would have taken me under my wing before I put a rune of minor health ontop of a rune of Sup health. What is non stacking anyway ? Let this not happen to you.

[DarklingKiller]

Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X

Does the difficulty level of GW contribute to the rude culture of the GW community? Someone made a thread recently supposing that GW full of children ruining the game. Many quickly pointed out that jerks and rudeness was coming from all ages in the GW community. So I would like to explore why everyone is GW is not not singing kumbuya and bonding at the hip. I think its because GW is an extremely demanding game. I have never played another MMO but I have heard of people doing laid back activities in other games such as crafting and fishing. These people who play these games just log on for a playful rump in the sandbox it seems. Meanwhile GW is a warbox with no time to chill, once you leave the outpost its “game on” or die. Scrubs, n00bs or any type of mistake can’t be tolerated because any incompetence on anyone’s part can make an eight man team fail in pve or pvp. Many people because of the difficulty of the game I believe are frustrated and hostile. Think about your friends list. It is probably strictly made up of good players, guys you held halls with and ran though elite and hard mode missions more utilitarian relationships than anything else, when was the last time you failed a mission or got wiped in pvp and bothered to add those people to your friends list? GW is the skill>time game which is why we all love it, yet the cost of the challenge is an extreme intolerance for imperfection in our community. Given this I don’t ever think GW will have a friendly community, even the charr are rude and rank you when they win. Yet I would rather fight HM charr than fish any day. Thoughts?.

I'd actually prefer fishing but that's just me.